Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker Trailer Reaction… or… “the Olive Garden of Movies”?

I echo what Collin whispered in my ear after the trailer. “That…looks…terrible…”

ryan

Loved that trailer. Got goosebumps twice. 

I didn’t see anything that super excited me like a huge fight scene, but the scenery likes amazing. I’m excited to see it, because it’s SW,  not because of this trailer. @ryan what gave you goosebumps?

ryan

The music. The duel. The ship rising out of the water. Loved it all.

Any truth to the rumor I just made up that Ryan’s last words before leaving Austin was “I just want to see my friends for the last time “?

The trailer felt like more of a music video than a promotion for feature film.

The Trilogy was a perfectly cooked dinner entree. The prequels were an overcooked, underseasoned appetizer that somehow was so late it arrived after dinner. The new trilogy is desert. It’s empty calories and definitely not the reason you chose this restaurant, but also pretty tasty.

Good analogy. I think I am at the point where other restaurants (eg- The Avengers) have overtaken the old favorite and I wonder why people go there anymore. Maybe I just stop in, sit at the bar, and order the salad and breadsticks, but it’s not a destination anymore.(The last part of the analogy means I’ll see the movies but won’t buy them on digital…)

Damn @jonathan I couldn’t have said it better. Great analogy

Lol

I usually go overt with my insults. I’m practicing subtlety…

I mean, it’s not like Star Wars was ever Le Bernadin.

Spot on.

BINGO

SW really MAY be Olive Garden…

and whenever i revisit it from time to time for a lunch or family dinner or something, it’s usually a tasty meal. And it reminds me of a simpler time.

Star Wars is clearly comfort food.

that first teaser was, “Never ending Pasta Bowl is BACK! (Please come back)”

Star Wars wasn’t always the Olive Garden. It was a small, unique, family friendly place that was always successful but did it’s own thing. There was a lot of tightly controlled outside work (extended universe you could say) but everyone expected the original chef to always make the place special despite years of semi-retirement. The food may not have been all world, but everyone who wasn’t an Anton Ego type loved it.Then the old chef tried some new recipes after years of anticipation by his patrons, and the patrons saw how much that old chef needed past collaborators.But the old chef didn’t really need that anymore. Heck, he may have wanted to try different cuisines. So, he sold his place to the Olive Garden who in turn tried to mass produce as quickly as possible what made the original recipes so good.

Lucas invented the salad dressing. Now they sell it as grocery stores and I don’t even need to go sit at the bar.

As for the trailer, it reminds me of what I didn’t care for with TFA. It’s relying on fond memories for what already existed rather than create something new.

Disney is nothing if not the Darden Restaurant Group of film making.

ryan

It isn’t a bad analogy because here’s the thing—Star Wars isn’t that creative. Lucas absolutely gets credit for bringing the Hero’s Journey to space opera in a great way. But he was just the first guy to do it in the right way at the right time. He deserves the credit and the money for doing so.Going beyond the Hero’s Journey was beyond him because he wasn’t that talented a writer even though he’s a great filmmaker.The new trilogy has been tackling the same themes as the original but in a modern time. They’ve been doing so in a very Star Wars way. And some fans are upset because they have changed even though Star Wars hasn’t. It’s similar to Indy 4. Yes, the monkey CGI was bad but that’s an uncanny valley problem. I recall way too many people complaining about the fridge in the opening and all I could think was “Have you people SEEN Indiana Jones movies?”Star Wars is pulp, it’s mythic, it’s over the top space opera. It’s a sweeping adventure with a healthy dose of toy commercial. It’s also a hero taking up their spear/sling/sword/lightsaber to vanquish the mammoth/giant/dragon/Sith in a tale as old as humanity. With a sprinkling of modern ideals because filmmakers are products of their time too.So, yeah, they’re Olive Garden. That’s okay. More than okay. It is still possible to enjoy a meal at Olive Garden even after you’ve moved on. Heck, I know some people who enjoy a nice slice of Sbarro pizza even when they’re in New York City. Just embrace the unlimited breadsticks and have fun! Then go see some cinematic sushi after if you feel the need. Have fun!

God I fucking hate that fridge scene.

That scene fridged Jimmy’s suspension of disbelief.

Excellent Sbarro take down…

ryan

But we didn’t have a problem with Indy holding onto a submarine periscope for like 1500 miles.

Jenny

I just read this thread to my teammates at work.

Maybe you didn’t…

We didn’t see Indy hold onto that periscope. In the modern era, I think Spielberg and Lucas would have shown the whole thing with CGI.

And there’s suspension of disbelief and then there’s fucking stupid.

Now that I have recovered from that Sbarro takedown, I will disagree moderately with Ryan’s point on “we have changed”.  I have always argued (oddly against deaf ears here) that the originals weren’t that good, but we but we were influenced by nostalgia.  But I am not sure they are connecting with young audiences globally like other films.  Solo flat out bombed globally.  It likely lost money…

That’s because it was made for a generation that never asked for it.

So if Ryan’s standard is true (and I think it is for me a bit), the current generation should absolutely love it.  Do they?  I don’t know….

I rest my case.

Because you are lazy.

Fuck yeah.

ryan 

It’s a new generation that’s growing up with a lot more media access than we had. But I think when you go Thursday night, look for the kids. They’ll be there and they are fucking ecstatic. They’re getting unlimited breadsticks and they even get strawberry lemonade because it’s a special occasion!

I would love to see the demographics.  I would guess Star Wars skews a little more middle age male than other four quadrant films.

Jimmy could look into that, but he’s been established as epically lazy.

So lazy.

What if it’s boxed wine ?